• Dell G3 3779, płyta LA-F611P - brak napięcia +PWR_SRC

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#1 Dell G3 3779, płyta LA-F611P - brak napięcia +PWR_SRC


by krisark 7 January 2025, 17:18
Witam wszystkich,
Dell G3 3779, płyta LA-F611P Rev: 1.00 (A00)
Na płycie był uszkodzony tranzystor PQB02, spuchnięty i pęknięty, rezystancja na PLB01 była w granicy 0,20Ω, tranzystor został wymieniony na nowy AON 6992 oraz odbudowana ścieżka do PLB01.
W tej chwili rezystancja na PLB01 wynosi - 26,20kΩ i rośnie.
Po podłączeniu zasilacza pobór prądu jest 0,000A. Napięcie na rezystorze pomiarowym PRB01 (+SDC_IN) jest poprawne 19,53V, ale napięcie na linii +PWR_SRC jest już 0,40V.
Rezystancja linii +PWR_SRC - 1,95MΩ. Mierzona na PU501 pin -2.
Dlaczego napięcie głównej linii z tranzystora pomiarowego zanika i na +PWR_SRC jest nieprawidłowe?
Ostatnim układem gdzie jest napięcie 19,50V jest PQB07 pin 2 (+CHARGER_SRC).
Nie uruchamia się na baterii oraz nie ładuje.
Płyta była dłubana przez użytkownika wiec może rozlutował jakaś zworkę lub coś wylutował.

Proszę o pomoc w ustaleniu usterki.

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#3 Re: Dell G3 3779, płyta LA-F611P - brak napięcia +PWR_SRC


by krisark 8 January 2025, 11:18
PU501:
pin 2 - 7,25MΩ

Ostatnim tranzystorem gdzie jest napięcie 19,50V jest PQB07 pin 2 (+CHARGER_SRC).
PQB07:
pin 1 - 0,00V
pin 2 - 19,50V
pin 3 - 0,00V
pin 6 - 0,00V

#4 Re: Dell G3 3779, płyta LA-F611P - brak napięcia +PWR_SRC


by matic 9 January 2025, 09:29
Which charger chip PUB01 is on your board (ISL9538 or ISL95522)?

Measure the following voltages to ground with the power supply connected only (without the battery):
- On pin 4 of transistors PQ3, PQ4.
- On pins 4, 8, 12, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 24, 25, 28 of charger chip PUB01.

#5 Re: Dell G3 3779, płyta LA-F611P - brak napięcia +PWR_SRC


by krisark 9 January 2025, 09:46
matic wrote:Which charger chip PUB01 is on your board (ISL9538 or ISL95522)?
Jest ISL9538H, wymieniłem go już na nowy.
matic wrote:Measure the following voltages to ground with the power supply connected only (without the battery):
- On pin 4 of transistors PQ3, PQ4.
PQ3:
pin 4 - 9,55V
PQ4:
pin 4 - 9,54V

matic wrote:On pins 4, 8, 12, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 24, 25, 28 of charger chip PUB01.
PUB01:
pin 4 - 4,84V
pin 8 - 5,17V
pin 12 - 4,85V
pin 14 - 19,95V
pin 15 - 19,94V
pin 16 - 19,93V
pin 17 - 19,73V
pin 18 - 5,16V
pin 19 - 3,71V
pin 24 - 0,00V
pin 25 - 0,00V
pin 28 - 0,00V

#6 Re: Dell G3 3779, płyta LA-F611P - brak napięcia +PWR_SRC


by krisark 13 January 2025, 11:38
Czy masz jeszcze jakiś pomysł, bo utknąłem z tą naprawą?

#7 Re: Dell G3 3779, płyta LA-F611P - brak napięcia +PWR_SRC


by krisark 15 January 2025, 23:44
Dla testów podałem zasilanie na linie +PWR_SRC i laptop startuje i działa normalnie oprócz ładowania , nie ładuje.
Co może być powodem zaniku napięcia na linii +PWR_SRC?

#8 Re: Dell G3 3779, płyta LA-F611P - brak napięcia +PWR_SRC


by matic 21 January 2025, 09:27
Measure the voltages to ground on all pins of battery connector with the power supply + battery connected.

#9 Re: Dell G3 3779, płyta LA-F611P - brak napięcia +PWR_SRC


by krisark 21 January 2025, 10:47
Tak jak pisałem wyżej podałem napięcie bezpośrednio na +PWR_SRC, lutując zworki PJPB02 i PJPB03 .
Fabrycznie nie było tam zworek, polutowanych.
Pomiar z założonymi zworkami:
PBATT 1:
pin 1,2,3,4 - 0,00V
pin 5 - 0,00V
pin 6 - 3,33V
pin 7 - 3,32V
pin 8, 9, 10 - 0,60V

Pomiar z usuniętymi zworkami:
PBATT 1:
pin 1,2,3,4 - 0,00V
pin 5 - 0,00V
pin 6 - 0,00V
pin 7 - 0,00V
pin 8, 9, 10 - 14,96V

#10 Re: Dell G3 3779, płyta LA-F611P - brak napięcia +PWR_SRC


by matic 22 January 2025, 09:51
krisark wrote:Pomiar z założonymi zworkami:
PBATT 1:
pin 1,2,3,4 - 0,00V
pin 5 - 0,00V
pin 6 - 3,33V
pin 7 - 3,32V
pin 8, 9, 10 - 0,60V
Were these measurements taken with the battery connected?

#11 Re: Dell G3 3779, płyta LA-F611P - brak napięcia +PWR_SRC


by krisark 22 January 2025, 10:09
Tak z baterią, ale weź pod uwagę że były polutowane zworki, które fabrycznie nie były polutowane. Chodzi mi o zworki PJPB02 i PJPB03.
Polutowałem je tylko do testów czy laptop jest sprawny i czy się uruchomi i będzie obraz na matrycy.

Pomiar baterią z rozlutowanymi zworkami PJPB02 i PJPB03:
PBATT 1:
pin 1,2,3,4 - 0,00V
pin 5 - 0,00V
pin 6 - 0,00V
pin 7 - 0,00V
pin 8, 9, 10 - 14,96V

#12 Re: Dell G3 3779, płyta LA-F611P - brak napięcia +PWR_SRC


by krisark 27 January 2025, 18:19
Chłopaki jakiś pomysł jeszcze, bo szkoda złomować laptopa, który niby działa.

#13 Re: Dell G3 3779, płyta LA-F611P - brak napięcia +PWR_SRC


by matic 28 January 2025, 15:42
krisark wrote:Płyta była dłubana przez użytkownika wiec może rozlutował jakaś zworkę lub coś wylutował.
Thoroughly inspect the board around the charger chip PUB01 for any physically damaged or previously soldered components.

#14 Re: Dell G3 3779, płyta LA-F611P - brak napięcia +PWR_SRC


by krisark 10 February 2025, 18:10
matic wrote:Thoroughly inspect the board around the charger chip PUB01 for any physically damaged or previously soldered components.
Zobacz sam swoim okiem, ja nic nie znalazłem.
Rozmawiałem z klientem, mówił że nic nie lutował ani nie robił tylko rozkręcił i zobaczył uszkodzony układ PQB02.
Popatrz na zdjęcia czy coś zobaczysz. Zdjęcie układu ładowania oraz okolice uszkodzonego PQB02.
Oryginalnie PQB02 był AON6962 ja założyłem AON6992, może to jest problemem.
Image
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#15 Re: Dell G3 3779, płyta LA-F611P - brak napięcia +PWR_SRC


by matic 11 February 2025, 09:13
Measure the following resistances:
a) Between pin 1 and pin 2 of chip PUB01.
b) Between pin 1 and pin 3 of chip PUB01.
c) Between pin 1 and pin 10 of chip PUB01.
d) Between pin 3 and pin 16 of chip PUB01.
e) Between pin 6 and pin 10 of chip PUB01.
f) Between pin 8 and pin 18 of chip PUB01.
g) Between pin 14 and pin 15 of chip PUB01.
h) Between pin 3 of chip PUB01 and any pin of resistor PRB01.
i) Between pin 16 of chip PUB01 and any pin of resistor PRB01.

#16 Re: Dell G3 3779, płyta LA-F611P - brak napięcia +PWR_SRC


by krisark 11 February 2025, 11:22
matic wrote:a) Between pin 1 and pin 2 of chip PUB01.
2,49Ω
matic wrote:b) Between pin 1 and pin 3 of chip PUB01.
1.35Ω
matic wrote:c) Between pin 1 and pin 10 of chip PUB01.
14,20MΩ
matic wrote:d) Between pin 3 and pin 16 of chip PUB01.
11,22Ω
matic wrote:e) Between pin 6 and pin 10 of chip PUB01.
0,21Ω
matic wrote:f) Between pin 8 and pin 18 of chip PUB01.
4,88Ω
matic wrote:g) Between pin 14 and pin 15 of chip PUB01.
4,90Ω
matic wrote:h) Between pin 3 of chip PUB01 and any pin of resistor PRB01.
1,77MΩ
matic wrote:i) Between pin 16 of chip PUB01 and any pin of resistor PRB01.
0,28Ω

#17 Re: Dell G3 3779, płyta LA-F611P - brak napięcia +PWR_SRC


by matic 12 February 2025, 10:33
krisark wrote:
matic wrote:d) Between pin 3 and pin 16 of chip PUB01.
11,22Ω
Is this measurement correct?

#18 Re: Dell G3 3779, płyta LA-F611P - brak napięcia +PWR_SRC


by krisark 12 February 2025, 11:37
matic wrote:Is this measurement correct?
Pomyłka, przepraszam. Jest 1,74MΩ

#19 Re: Dell G3 3779, płyta LA-F611P - brak napięcia +PWR_SRC  [SOLVED]


by matic 12 February 2025, 12:25
Measure the resistances between listed pins of transistors PQB01, PQB02, PQB07:
- Between pin 1 and pin 4.
- Between pin 1 and pin 9.
- Between pin 4 and pin 9.
- Between pin 5 and pin 8.
- Between pin 5 and pin 9.
- Between pin 8 and pin 9.

Transistors PQB01, PQB02, PQB07 pinout:
Image

Measure the resistances between listed pins of transistor PQB03:
- Between pin 1 and pin 4.
- Between pin 1 and pin 5.
- Between pin 4 and pin 5.

#20 Re: Dell G3 3779, płyta LA-F611P - brak napięcia +PWR_SRC


by krisark 12 February 2025, 15:07
matic wrote:Measure the resistances between listed pins of transistors PQB01, PQB02, PQB07:
PQB01:
- Between pin 1 and pin 4 - 320,16kΩ
- Between pin 1 and pin 9 - 7,74kΩ
- Between pin 4 and pin 9 - 3,55kΩ
- Between pin 5 and pin 8 - 28,72kΩ
- Between pin 5 and pin 9 - 29,72kΩ
- Between pin 8 and pin 9 - 0,17Ω

PQB02
- Between pin 1 and pin 4 - 120,16kΩ
- Between pin 1 and pin 9 - 9,74kΩ
- Between pin 4 and pin 9 - 143,55kΩ
- Between pin 5 and pin 8 - 1,22MΩ
- Between pin 5 and pin 9 - 32,72kΩ
- Between pin 8 and pin 9 - 1,24MΩ

PQB07
- Between pin 1 and pin 4 - 134,16kΩ
- Between pin 1 and pin 9 - 8,90kΩ
- Between pin 4 and pin 9 - 64,55kΩ
- Between pin 5 and pin 8 - 35,20kΩ
- Between pin 5 and pin 9 - 29,72kΩ
- Between pin 8 and pin 9 -0,17Ω

matic wrote:Measure the resistances between listed pins of transistor PQB03:
PQB03:
- Between pin 1 and pin 4 - 8,22MΩ
- Between pin 1 and pin 5 - 8,70MΩ
- Between pin 4 and pin 5 - 17,22MΩ

EDIT:
Niska rezystancja na PQB01 i PQB07 - pomiędzy pin 8 i pin 9.
Wymieniłem oba tranzystory na nowe.
Płyta działa prawidłowo.
Dziękuję Matic za pomoc.

Re: Dell G3 3779, płyta LA-F611P - brak napięcia +PWR_SRC


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