• Dell Vostro 590 płyta Mantis_18778-1 brak 1V_VCCGT

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#1 Dell Vostro 590 płyta Mantis_18778-1 brak 1V_VCCGT


by matrixmm 28 May 2024, 13:07
Cześć, laptop jak w temacie, płyta Mantis_18778-1.
Historia płyty nieznana ale widzę, że ktoś w niej grzebał. Widoczne ślady zalania przy PU5001 i PU5003. Płytę dokładnie wyczyściłem. PU5001 zwarty. Wymieniłem oba (PU5001 i PU5003).
Po wymianie na cewce PL5001 pojawia się napięcie 1V. Płyta uruchamia się. Wszystkie napięcia pojawiają się poza 1V_VCCGT na cewce PL4801.
Płyta wyłączona pobiera 0,14A
Włączona bez podłączonej matrycy i bez dodatkowego RAM pobiera 0,78A
Tym razem chciałbym się nauczyć czegoś więcej niż diagnoza chargera albo przetwornicy 3V/5V.

Według mnie, brakuje napięcia 1V_VCCGT. Tu niestety nie potrafię określić, czy brakuje napięcia bo płyta nie przechodzi całej procedury startowej? Czy nie startuje bo brakuje napięcia 1V_VCCGT.
1V_VCCGT jest "bardzo blisko" 1V_VCCSA na którym było zwarcie. Wszystkie idą z PU4601 (ISL9589CHRTZ).
Skoro mam 1V_CPU_CORE na cewce PL4701 i mam 1V_VCCSA na cewce PL5001 to domniemam, że przetwornica PU4601 startuje. Nie potrafię stwierdzić czy działa prawidłowo i dlaczego nie mam 1V_VCCGT na cewce PL4801.

Rezystancja na cewce PL4801 – 11,5Ω (wygląda ok) PL4701 i PL4702-10Ω.
Napięcie na PU4801 n. 8,9,10,11 – 13,2V.
Poniżej jeszcze napięcia ze wszystkich cewek przed i po włączeniu przycisku power.

Power button off
PL8551 - 0V
PL8552 - 0V
PL4401 - 5,5V
PL5201 - 1V
PL8603 - 0V
PL5001 - 0V
PL5101 - 0V
PL4501 - 3,3V
PL4551 - 5,2V
PL4801 - 0V
PL4701 - 0V
PL4702 - 0V

Power button On
PL8551 - 0,8V
PL8552 - 0,8V
PL4401 - 13,2V
PL5201 - 1V
PL8603 - 1,4V
PL5001 - 1V
PL5101 - 1,2V
PL4501 - 3,3V
PL4551 - 5,2V
PL4801 - 0V
PL4701 - 0,8V
PL4702 - 0,8V

Jak zawsze, będę wdzięczny za wszelką pomoc.

Re: Dell Vostro 590 płyta Mantis_18778-1 brak 1V_VCCGT


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#2 Re: Dell Vostro 590 płyta Mantis_19778-1 brak 1V_VCCGT


by xamledyD 28 May 2024, 16:29
Witam.
matrixmm wrote:Płyta wyłączona pobiera 0,14A

140 mA przy wyłączonej płycie to zdecydowanie za dużo. Ten pobór prądu występuje z baterią czy bez niej? Jeśli bez baterii to sprawdź termowizją co pobiera ten prąd.
Pozdrawiam

#3 Re: Dell Vostro 590 płyta Mantis_19778-1 brak 1V_VCCGT


by matrixmm 28 May 2024, 17:15
Na termowizji widzę, że delikatnie (ok 30st.) grzeją się:

PU4401 (charger)
PU5201 (przetwornica 1V)
U2401 (KBC)

#4 Re: Dell Vostro 590 płyta Mantis_19778-1 brak 1V_VCCGT


by matic 30 May 2024, 09:59
Dell Vostro 590
This model number does not exist. It probably should be 5490 or 5590.
matrixmm wrote:Mantis_19778-1.
This motherboard number is probably also wrong. Did you mean 18778-1?

#5 Re: Dell Vostro 590 płyta Mantis_18778-1 brak 1V_VCCGT


by matrixmm 30 May 2024, 11:14
matic wrote:This motherboard number is probably also wrong. Did you mean 18778-1?

Indeed, of course you are right, I'm sorry I am a dyslexic. I often change the formation of characters. This is 18778-1. I'm already correcting.

#6 Re: Dell Vostro 590 płyta Mantis_18778-1 brak 1V_VCCGT


by matic 30 May 2024, 11:47
Open (cut) the jumper R2446 and remeasure the power consumption (in mA) of the board without battery connected.

#7 Re: Dell Vostro 590 płyta Mantis_18778-1 brak 1V_VCCGT


by matrixmm 30 May 2024, 12:03
when i cut R2446. The power consumption fell to: 0,027A.

#8 Re: Dell Vostro 590 płyta Mantis_18778-1 brak 1V_VCCGT


by matic 30 May 2024, 12:22
Which component(s) heat up in this case?

#9 Re: Dell Vostro 590 płyta Mantis_18778-1 brak 1V_VCCGT


by matrixmm 30 May 2024, 12:33
Charger PU4401 (26st.)

#10 Re: Dell Vostro 590 płyta Mantis_18778-1 brak 1V_VCCGT


by matic 31 May 2024, 08:09
Leave the jumper R2446 open and inject 12V from the laboratory power supply to any pin of the resistor PR4407. What electrical current flows from the laboratory power supply in this case?
Does any component(s) heat up in this case?

#11 Re: Dell Vostro 590 płyta Mantis_18778-1 brak 1V_VCCGT


by matrixmm 31 May 2024, 09:29
0,001A. I don't notice anything getting hot.

#12 Re: Dell Vostro 590 płyta Mantis_18778-1 brak 1V_VCCGT


by matic 31 May 2024, 11:11
Replace the charger chip.

#13 Re: Dell Vostro 590 płyta Mantis_18778-1 brak 1V_VCCGT


by matrixmm 12 June 2024, 18:31
I replaced the charger. Now the main board is switched off and draws 0.015A. Unfortunately, when I switch it on, the screen is still dark and there is still no voltage on the PL4801 coil.
PL4801-0V :(

#14 Re: Dell Vostro 590 płyta Mantis_18778-1 brak 1V_VCCGT


by matic 14 June 2024, 20:59
Measure the following voltages to ground:
- On pin 3 of transistor Q1702.
- On pins 28, 66 of KBC chip U2401.
- On pin 2 on the place of chip U7601 (this chip is factory not soldered).

#15 Re: Dell Vostro 590 płyta Mantis_18778-1 brak 1V_VCCGT


by matrixmm 16 June 2024, 17:42
Q1702
p.3 - 3,4V

U2401
p.28 - 3,4V
p.66 - 3,3V

U7601
p.2 - 3,4V (I have this chip soldered on the board)

#16 Re: Dell Vostro 590 płyta Mantis_18778-1 brak 1V_VCCGT


by matic 17 June 2024, 07:00
Try to reflash the BIOS chip.
Don't forget to save the old dump.

#17 Re: Dell Vostro 590 płyta Mantis_18778-1 brak 1V_VCCGT


by matrixmm 24 June 2024, 11:48
I checked 6 different ones. Without changes :(

#18 Re: Dell Vostro 590 płyta Mantis_18778-1 brak 1V_VCCGT


by matic 26 June 2024, 11:28
Please, post a clear picture of marked area of the board.
Image

Re: Dell Vostro 590 płyta Mantis_18778-1 brak 1V_VCCGT


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