• Iiyama Prolite E481S zamiennik transformatora

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#1 Iiyama Prolite E481S zamiennik transformatora


by XTermiX 25 November 2022, 20:51
Witam posiadam monitor Iiyama Prolite E481S którego zacząłem naprawiać. Po wymianie tranzystora STP9NK60ZFP i układu SG6841SZ zasilacz chce działać lecz na pinach transformatora po stronie gdzie ma 6 pinów nie ma napięcia i obstawiam przerwany obwód. Jaki zamiennik mogę kupić za niego? Transformator ma oznaczenie 80ll19t-3-t, a niżej daje zdjęcia
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#2 Re: Iiyama Prolite E481S zamiennik transformatora


by Vogelek23 25 November 2022, 21:59
XTermiX wrote:lecz na pinach transformatora po stronie gdzie ma 6 pinów nie ma napięcia i obstawiam przerwany obwód
Na jakiej podstawie tak uważasz? Sprawdziłeś, czy uzwojenie wtórne ma przejście? Sprawdziłeś, czy transformator nie ma zwarć międzyzwojowych strony pierwotnej (krótka odpowiedź impulsowa na testerze)? Próbowałeś uruchamiać przetwornicę w trybie zabezpieczonym (ze zwartym tranzystorem transoptora po stronie pierwotnej)?

#3 Re: Iiyama Prolite E481S zamiennik transformatora


by XTermiX 25 November 2022, 23:15
Testem diody wyszło tak na stronie pierwotnej 1 i 2 pin łączy się między sobą ale nie łączy się z 3,4,5 pinem które łączą się między sobą więc tutaj jest raczej dobrze, po stronie pierwotnej wszystkie 6 pinów łączy się między sobą. Nie próbowałem zwierać transoptora nigdy tego nie robiłem. Dlaczego na wtórnej stronie nie ma żadnego napięcia?

#4 Re: Iiyama Prolite E481S zamiennik transformatora


by matic 28 November 2022, 21:14
XTermiX wrote:Testem diody wyszło tak na stronie pierwotnej 1 i 2 pin łączy się między sobą ale nie łączy się z 3,4,5 pinem które łączą się między sobą więc tutaj jest raczej dobrze, po stronie pierwotnej wszystkie 6 pinów łączy się między sobą.
That's completely normal, there are multiple windings inside that transformer (as illustrated in the following pictures).
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XTermiX wrote:Dlaczego na wtórnej stronie nie ma żadnego napięcia?
We're not clairvoyant here, so we can't know that without anything concrete measurements.

Perform the following measurements in reference to the "hot" ground. The "hot" ground is the negative (-) pin of the main 400V big electrolytic capacitor.
- Measure the resistance to ground on Source (S) pin of transistor STP9NK60ZFP.
- Measure the resistances to ground on pins 2, 3, 6, 7 of chip SG6841SZ.

- Measure the voltage to ground on pin 2 of transformer.
- Measure the voltages to ground on pins 3, 7 of chip SG6841SZ.

Be aware of high voltages.
Make sure to discharge the main 400V big electrolytic capacitor before handling the board.

#5 Re: Iiyama Prolite E481S zamiennik transformatora


by XTermiX 28 November 2022, 23:52
Should I take the measurements when it's unplugged or plugged in? I have a resistor to discharge the capacitors so no worries

#6 Re: Iiyama Prolite E481S zamiennik transformatora


by Vogelek23 29 November 2022, 22:50
Napięcia mierzysz przy podłączonym zasilaniu (inaczej nie zmierzysz żadnych sensownych napięć). Natomiast rezystancje MUSZĄ być mierzone wyłącznie po odłączeniu urządzenia od zasilania - najlepiej jest odczekać kilka minut, aż wszystkie pojemności się rozładują, bo tylko wtedy zmierzysz sensowne rezystancje.

#7 Re: Iiyama Prolite E481S zamiennik transformatora


by XTermiX 30 November 2022, 21:44
"- Measure the resistance to ground on Source (S) pin of transistor STP9NK60ZFP."
0.3Ω
"- Measure the resistances to ground on pins 2, 3, 6, 7 of chip SG6841SZ."
2 pin: 75KΩ
3 pin: 2.03MΩ
6 pin: 0.3Ω
7 pin 1.05MΩ
"- Measure the voltage to ground on pin 2 of transformer."
320V
"- Measure the voltages to ground on pins 3, 7 of chip SG6841SZ."
3 pin: 10,45V
7 pin: 6,76V

#8 Re: Iiyama Prolite E481S zamiennik transformatora


by matic 3 December 2022, 11:58
Measure the resistances between listed pins of chip SG6841SZ.
- Between pin 1 and pin 8.
- Between pin 7 and pin 8.

#9 Re: Iiyama Prolite E481S zamiennik transformatora


by XTermiX 4 December 2022, 22:28
matic wrote:Measure the resistances between listed pins of chip SG6841SZ.
- Between pin 1 and pin 8.
- Between pin 7 and pin 8.


- Between pin 1 and pin 8.
11.33kΩ
- Between pin 7 and pin 8.
13.18kΩ

#10 Re: Iiyama Prolite E481S zamiennik transformatora


by XTermiX 25 December 2022, 14:51
Ktoś coś doradzi bo od dłuższego czasu cisza?

#11 Re: Iiyama Prolite E481S zamiennik transformatora


by matic 25 December 2022, 16:25
Do you have an oscilloscope?

#12 Re: Iiyama Prolite E481S zamiennik transformatora


by XTermiX 27 December 2022, 09:14
Unfortunately, I don't have an oscilloscope

#13 Re: Iiyama Prolite E481S zamiennik transformatora


by matic 28 December 2022, 12:18
XTermiX wrote:Po wymianie tranzystora STP9NK60ZFP i układu SG6841SZ
- Was that transistor and controller chip initially damaged?
- Was the electrolytic capacitors on the secondary side initially bulged?
- What was the initial state of this monitor?

#14 Re: Iiyama Prolite E481S zamiennik transformatora


by XTermiX 28 December 2022, 23:09
matic wrote:- Was that transistor and controller chip initially damaged?
- Was the electrolytic capacitors on the secondary side initially bulged?
- What was the initial state of this monitor?


- I bought it damaged to repair and use. After unscrewing, the first thing I saw was a blown fuse, then I started checking the transistor that the element tester showed as damaged and a short circuit on the capacitors that connected to the system.

- The capacitors on the secondary side are bulging but I'm going to check them soon

- I do not know the previous history of this monitor

#15 Re: Iiyama Prolite E481S zamiennik transformatora


by XTermiX 7 January 2023, 11:45
matic wrote:- Was the electrolytic capacitors on the secondary side initially bulged?


I checked all the capacitors with an element tester and they all seem to be in working order, all have low ESR below 1Ω and capacitance within 3% tolerance. I'm giving up, do you have any other ideas?

#16 Re: Iiyama Prolite E481S zamiennik transformatora


by XTermiX 6 February 2023, 09:10
Ktoś ma jakiś pomysł co dalej?

#17 Re: Iiyama Prolite E481S zamiennik transformatora


by matic 6 February 2023, 12:00
XTermiX wrote:After unscrewing, the first thing I saw was a blown fuse, then I started checking the transistor that the element tester showed as damaged
Which transistor was there originally and with which one you replaced it?

XTermiX wrote:and a short circuit on the capacitors that connected to the system.
Which capacitors exactly do you mean?

#18 Re: Iiyama Prolite E481S zamiennik transformatora


by XTermiX 6 February 2023, 14:20
matic wrote:Which transistor was there originally and with which one you replaced it?

There is one transistor and I put the same one
matic wrote:Which capacitors exactly do you mean?

SMD capacitors near this SG6841SZ

#19 Re: Iiyama Prolite E481S zamiennik transformatora


by matic 7 February 2023, 09:44
XTermiX wrote:
matic wrote:Which capacitors exactly do you mean?
SMD capacitors near this SG6841SZ
- Please, post a clear picture of the SG chip with a nearby surroundings and mark these capacitors in the picture.
- Is there still a short circuit on these capacitors after replacing the chip?

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